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ATTORNEY GENERAL JANET RENO

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AT HARVARD UNIVERSITY

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Saturday, May 9, 1998

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Harvard University

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ARCO Forum of Public Affairs

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ATTORNEY GENERAL JANET RENO: Thank

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you very much. It is such an honor to be here. I

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have such a great respect for the school and what

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it has done to bring people of different

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disciplines together, and so I think I will just

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say I come as someone who was born and raised in a

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wonderful city that has been changed by

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immigration. I've lived there all of my life.

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I've seen experience in the legislature and

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private practice. I've been elected five times to

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an office, and now I've had an opportunity to use

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the law for all of the American people to try to

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do things for the American people. I say that

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just to give you the vantage point from which I

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speak.


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When I came to Washington, I had

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seen violence and gangs and guns. I said that

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youth violence was the single greatest crime

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problem in America. It is still. That domestic

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violence must be focused upon. I saw what drugs

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and alcohol had done to end lives, to tear up

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neighborhoods, and to give babies a dim and

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bleak future. I saw the results of our failing

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provide child support, and the fact that 20

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percents of Americans or more were living in

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poverty, many of them children, that they were

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dropping out. I saw squalid housing and I saw

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downtown infrastructures just falling apart. I

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saw people isolated, alone and with no roots. I

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saw people in the elections that I participated

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in only coming to vote -- with only 30 percent

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of the people coming to vote, and I saw and

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still see total confusion and mystification at

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what Washington says and how it says it.

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So, I came to Washington believing

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that the responsibility of government at every

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level is to ensure that every person has access

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to the building blocks and the tools with which

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each individual can build a strong and positive

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and productive life.

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I came convinced that what we must

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do was to reweave the fabric of community around

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children and families and people at risk. There

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are nine points with which I think we must

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approach this effort. First, and perhaps most

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important of all, we must trust the people. We

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must listen to them. Not many people in

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government do that now. They may listen to

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their faxes that they get from constituents in

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an organized way, but for the person who is at

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risk, for the youngster who is on the verge of

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crime, we do not listen. We do not listen to

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the lady who is behind closed doors that she's

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afraid to come out from behind, but she has a

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wealth of information. We design programs

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thinking that we know best, when we are a

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government of the people and the people have

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such tremendous wisdom. The young man in a

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detention facility who can tell me: You ask me

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what I can do to stay -- could have done to stay

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out of trouble, give me somebody strong,

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positive to talk to, somebody who knows how hard

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it is to grow up in America today, somebody that

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can be a model for me, and give me something

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positive to do in the afternoons and evenings.

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We've got to believe in people and

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believe that each one of them can make a

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contribution. That youngster can be a mentor.

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That person just getting out of the detention

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facility does have a future if we give him the

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tools to build. We've got to believe in

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volunteers and understand that if we organize

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them and provide transportation and deal with

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the mechanics of volunteering so that all they

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have to do is to think about what they're doing

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as volunteers and not how to get there and what

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to do and liability and the like, we're going to

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have a tremendous force in this land, and we

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have got to do everything we can to build in

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each American -- every American the hope, the

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strength, the courage, the spirit that is what a

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productive life is all about.

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The second point that I would like

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to make as we approach this problem is how do we

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communicate, how do we talk with people. Right

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now, the federal government talks to people in

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terms of Title Vs, OJJDPs, HHSs, DOJs, BO, Vern

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grants, VAWAs, Title XVI and a lot of other

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things. I still don't know what it all means

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and I can assure you the American people don't

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know what it all means. They don't know what it

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means when they see a big headline in the Miami

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Herald that says, Congress Authorizes Millions

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of Dollars of Drugs. Six months later, I ask my

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senator where the millions of dollars are and he

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explains that was just authorized, it wasn't

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appropriated.

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If we are to -- when -- in my law

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school days, we talked about implementing the

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contract. If we were to make whatever contract

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we develop work, we must know how to communicate

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with our people and Winston Churchill said it

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best. We must use the small old words and talk

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in terms that everybody can understand, because

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they have a far more compelling eloquence. We

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must be comprehensive. You think we're going to

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solve all the problems we've got on 30 second

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sound bites on the six o'clock news. Television

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has had a disastrous effect on good, solid,

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comprehensive, problem-solving discussions that

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are essential if we are going to deal with the

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problems before us.

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We have a challenge. How do we use

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the marvel of television, the opportunity it

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gives to us to know so much about so many things

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that we might not know about? How can we use

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the extraordinary opportunities that the

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Internet will provide us for the future without

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becoming a servant of TV and the Internet. That

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will be one of our challenges if we are to

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really forge a strong and vigorous contract with

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the people we serve.

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The third point is that we must make

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an investment in people from the beginning. We

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must not wait till we put them in prison to make

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an investment. We must not wait to make a

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special investment in remedial education 15

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years down the line. We must make an investment

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from the beginning. As the prosecutor in Miami,

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I had to be -- I had to determine what to do

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about crack involved infants and their mothers.

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The doctors took me to our public hospital. The

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child development experts talked to me. They

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explained to me that 50 percent of all learned

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human response is learned in the first year of

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life. That the concept of reward, punishment

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and conscience is developed in the first three

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years.

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And I can remember standing there

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and saying, what good are all the prisons going

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to be 18 years from now if this child does not

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understand the concept of punishment? What good

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are all the great educational opportunities that

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we provide down the road going to mean to this

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child, unless we provide him with the foundation

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in this first year that can make a difference?

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I suddenly realized that I had a

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responsibility to start talking not just about

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the criminal justice system or the juvenile

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justice system, but the whole continuum. To

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explain to a business man that he wasn't going

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to have workers with the skills necessary to

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fill the jobs for his company to maintain his

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company as a first-rate company in this nation's

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economic engine as a first rate engine; that the

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medical institutions would be brought to their

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knees if we didn't start investing up front in

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preventative medical care that would save us

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vast dollars in terms of tertiary crisis care

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down the line; that the educational system could

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put its moneys spent in remediation into

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building opportunities for children to deal with

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the issues of cyber -- of the cyber world in the

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next century. We weren't going to get the

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diversity that was going to make this country

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strong, because we weren't providing

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opportunities up front, and we were going to

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have an economy that was slow and stuck because

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we weren't giving every American the chance to

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participate. So, I decided that everything that

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I did with respect to the issues I talked about

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was going to be couched in prevention. What can

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we do to invest up front to make a difference?

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But then it became clear to me that

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even if we made a solid investment in the

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foundation, it wouldn't make a particle's worth

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of difference if that child walked out of the

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second grade in the afternoon at three o'clock,

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walked out to the streets where guns were

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blazing, walked to a home where there was no

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supervision; and it seemed to me that if we were

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going to focus and build something that made a

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difference for our people, we had to build it as

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a continuum and put the blocks in piece by

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piece, or otherwise it would literally fall

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apart; and we watch too many children's lives

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fall apart. We have to identify the key points

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along the way, where we can place a building

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block that can make a difference.

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The next point that I think is

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critical is that we must focus on our families.

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And people say how do you do that? I'll talk

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about that in a minute, but the family is the

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best social worker, the best caregiver, the best

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teacher, and how we strengthen the family is

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going to be a measure of our success.

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Now, there were -- I've been here

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since five minutes past 12:00 and the word I

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have heard most since I've been here is

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community. What is a community? How do you

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build it? Well, part of building a community is

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building people strong enough to participate in

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that community, but at the same time, the

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community can be an extraordinary force. And

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let us look for a moment at history to

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understand community. Up until the Depression,

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people seemed to look most to community to solve

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their problems. With the Depression, people

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began to look to Washington to solve problems

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with the war that became more confirmed that

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Washington was the place of power and authority.

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With the '50s and '60s, they looked to

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Washington for civil rights. In the '70s, they

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looked to Washington for model cities, dollars

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and LEAA dollars. And then in the '80s,

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Washington started shifting the programs to the

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states, without the dollars. And in

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Tallahassee, I watched the state shift the

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programs to communities, without the dollars.

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And suddenly there was something exciting

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happening in communities that I was involved

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with and now I see across the nation. With

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their backs up against the wall, without having

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to compete for grants, communities were coming

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together and bringing churches and police

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officers and teachers and doctors and lawyers

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and business people, and 84-year-old

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grandmothers together to figure out how to solve

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the problems of their community.

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Communities understand their needs

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and resources far better than we do in

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Washington. I never liked the feds coming to

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town telling us what to do. And the feds have a

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great ability to do that. We're trying to

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change that. But what does change, too, is a

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community. I have watched a sleepy little city

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grow into a major international city. I have

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watched it become a city in which Univision is

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the number one on the Nielsen ratings. It is

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Miami. But it still, to me, has sense of

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community, frayed at the edges, sometimes ripped

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apart, but worth fighting for and far enhanced

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by the people who have come to its shores in

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these last 30 years.

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How do we deal with the issue of the

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international impact of the world on us all?

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Crime will become international in its scope and

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consequence by the next century. Borders will

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mean nothing in terms of pornography on the

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Internet, gambling in a place that has outlawed

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gambling will be available on the Internet. How

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do we deal with that? What is the glue? How do

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we bring us together?

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It is imperative if we are to deal

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in this issue that the federal, state and local

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governments form partnerships, balanced

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partnerships, respectful partnerships, and two-

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way partnerships for exchange of information.

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The federal government can be so effective in

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terms of providing seed dollars to show people

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what for example community policing has done, to

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provide moneys to change the culture -- cultural

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attitudes towards domestic violence. They can

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serve as clearing houses and let us encourage

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research as to what works and what doesn't work.

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And federal agencies can be a mighty force if

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they come together.

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One of the most frustrating aspects

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of my time in Washington has been to deal with

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so many federal agencies, to watch the mayor and

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the chief of police say, well, I've been to see

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Secretary so-and-so and I'm going to see

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Secretary so-and-so, and I keep thinking what

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would happen if we just had a Boston desk where

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they could come to one person who was a Boston

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advocate, with Boston's plan laid out on the

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computer, where people could talk back and forth

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and Boston would say, I need something over

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here, Reverend Rivers wants a prevention program

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in a church in Dorchester. How can we do this?

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How can we come together? How can the federal,

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state and local governments deal in an effective

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way, in a cooperative way, in a collegial way,

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with the communities across the nation? But the

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federal government also has a responsibility for

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some ultimate protections, protections of our

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civil rights, protections against terrorism, and

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we must focus on that, as well.

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One of the most wonderful things

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that I have seen happen relates to my point

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number eight, and that is the need for research,

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the need for the academic community to be

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involved on these day-to-day issues. Now, some

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articles that I read, I have to read ten times

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to understand what they said. The lawyers are

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worst at that, but social workers are sometimes

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not too far behind. But when I can pick up at

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least a summary, beautifully written, of

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research done by an academic institution that is

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well-written, that is persuasive, and that has

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solid research to show that some prevention

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program is working and that it is having an

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impact, I practically wrap my arms around it,

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put it on the desk and keep it there for three

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days until I've memorized it, because it can be

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so effective in showing a Congressman or

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somebody else that prevention can work.

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Now, in addition to some of the

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material not being too persuasive, some of it is

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not very current, and in the whole issue of

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social policy, what is absolutely essential is

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the development of information, evaluations and

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research that has a time sensitive impact. I

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remember in Miami in the early '80s, I thought

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we were beginning to make a difference. And

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then suddenly the murder rate went up and I

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heard about this substance called crack. Times

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change, and by the time we were dealing with

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crack, the research we were getting was five

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years behind. We have got to form alliances

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between those of us who are responsible for

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operations and academic institutions to ensure

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that we have information that can be really

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useful in persuading city commissions,

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legislatures and Congress as to what the right

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public policy should be.

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And then the next point and last

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point is that we must bring the disciplines and

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institutions and religious institutions together

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as one, to plan together what a community needs,

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design a plan that says you can do this, we'll

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do this, we'll work on this, you provide this

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building block, we can do this.

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Now, I've been talking to Dean Nye,

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and I don't think the American Universities, the

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Kennedy School being one of the great

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exceptions, does very much about bringing

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disciplines together. And you are not going to

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solve the problem of America's unraveled

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communities, America's neglected children,

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America's youth violence, America's teen

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pregnancy, or any of the other major issues that

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we face unless doctors and lawyers and teachers

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and police officers start talking together and

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learning together and looking at the whole

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picture.

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I'm not going to solve the problem

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as Attorney General by just putting people in

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jail. An early childhood specialist is not

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going to solve the problem just by getting child

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care for every zero to three-year-old child.

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We're going to have to look at the big picture

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and the long continuum and we're going to have

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to look at it together in thoughtful, collegial

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discussion.

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Dean says it's going the other way

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and that the universities of America are

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becoming more specialized. Frankly, Dean, I

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don't see how they could become more

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specialized.

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If you will give me some hints as to

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what I can do to start getting them to talk

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together, I think this is one of the great

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deficiencies that we face in terms of knowledge

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in America, somebody who knows the whole picture

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and understands that it's all a bunch sometimes

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of fragile blocks that build the whole.

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Now, applying these points, how do

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we build the tools? How -- what tools do we

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use? How do we build the blocks? The first

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block is a strong family. We've got to enhance

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our teaching and parenting skills. Domestic

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violence can be eliminated, at least

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substantially reduced in this country, and we

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have a golden opportunity. With budget

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surpluses, Congress has continued to be willing

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to fund the Violence Against Women Act. That's

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going to dry up someday. But in this time, let

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us use it with prosecutors and emergency room

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physicians and social workers and teachers and

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community advocates and the minister working

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together to say, we will use this money to

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ensure shelters, to ensure court services, to

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ensure centers that can make a difference. We

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have the opportunity to change a culture with

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respect to domestic violence and eliminate it in

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anybody's mind as something that somebody might

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find acceptable.

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The impact on our children, we have

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enough research now to indicate that the child

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that watches his father beat his mother comes to

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accept violence as a way of life. We've got to

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intervene when that child sees the violence so

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that we do not see it repeated 10 and 15 years

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down the line. Child support enforcement should

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be as effective as other government mechanisms,

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but trying to force this change across the

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nation has been difficult. Teen pregnancy is

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being reduced, but we cannot rest on our

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laurels.

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We have done a lot. The first bill

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the President signed was the Family and Medical

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Leave Act. But we have got to do more in terms

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of child care, and his child care proposals will

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begin to address it.

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But I have a suggestion yet. None

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of that will make any difference in the long run

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unless we can provide more family time for

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parents to spend with their children. We have

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gotten so we work so hard, where lawyers for

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example, worry so about their billable hours,

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that we are not spending time with our children.

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I remember my afternoons after school and in the

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evening. My mother worked in the home. She

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taught me to play baseball, to bake a cake, to

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appreciate Beethoven's symphony. She punished

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us and she loved us with all her heart and soul,

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and there is no child care in the world that

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will ever be the substitute for what she was.

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If we have the Internet, if we know

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as much about the Cyber world as we do, we ought

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to be able to create work places in this nation

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that give parents, both parents, more quality

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time with their children, and this is a

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challenge I think that we should all undertake.

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The next building block is health.

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Every child in America should have been assured

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of appropriate prenatal care. Every child in

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America should have available preventative

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medical care. We are engaged in a challenge

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with United Way and other children's agencies to

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focus on getting children registered, those who

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are eligible, for health insurance. But then we

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need to link systems and transportation systems

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to get those children to that clinic. These are

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the bits and pieces that make a difference. It

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seems so funny to be talking about

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transportation at the Kennedy School, but

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clearly when I go to a community meeting, the

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big gripe is I can't get to the service. I

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can't get to that doctor who's willing to

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volunteer. How can we link communities?

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The next block is a roof over your

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head. The mother who sleeps in the car with the

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children, who's been the victim of domestic

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violence, the increasing number of children who

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are homeless, or the children who are living in

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squalor. To walk into a public housing project

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financed by this nation, as I did in Miami, and

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see people living in squalor is not right. If

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the community, however, joins with the federal

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authorities in policing these housing units, we

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can make a difference, but we have got to start

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with us, or otherwise the private landlord will

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do exactly what one did to me and say: What are

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you talking about me for? Why don't you go talk

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about what government does? We can make a

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difference.

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Education. First, we've got to

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ensure the foundation of zero to three. We have

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got to stop calling it child care and start

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calling it educare if 50 percent of all learned

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human response is learned in the first year of

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life. We've got to start making sure that we

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have teachers who are trained in teaching

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children zero to three, and then we have got to

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make the wonders of K through 12 real for all

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Americans. I can still name every one of my

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teachers. Some I liked and some I didn't like.

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But most every one of them challenged me. We

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can make a difference if we provide support for

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our school systems.

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But after school and in the evenings

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are as much a formative time in a child's life.

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And it's estimated that as many as seven million

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children go home alone after school. The

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Carnegie Foundation has pointed out that

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children are more alone and unsupervised except

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for contact with peers than at any time in

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history and more exposed to dangerous

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influences. How do we organize? A community

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can again sit down and figure out how to do it

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and the development of a plan that can truly

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make a difference. That plan can be put on

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record at the Boston desk in Washington. We can

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work together, seeing what the State of

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Massachusetts has, finding this foundation

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grant, plugging this whole with some training,

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providing technical expertise on another matter.

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But working together in a collegial way, looking

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to the blocks that go to building a community.

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We have a challenge, though. We are

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currently faced with one of the most

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extraordinary problems that I have had to deal

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with at the Department of Justice. How do I

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find agents and lawyers who are cyber

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sophisticated, who know what they're talking

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about in terms of cyber issues and cyber crime,

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in terms of automation? Can't compete with the

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private sector, and even the private sector has

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trouble getting them. Can we somehow or another

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speed up the manner in which we train our young

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people, in which we identify our young people

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who have the aptitude and make a difference?

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And then we need to turn to the next

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building block, safety. We've approached it all

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wrong. The Republicans and the Democrats holler

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at each other, whereas public safety should be

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just like raising a child the right way. It

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should be a matter of common sense. And we

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should work together in developing plans. A

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community should identify its crime problem.

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What is best handled by the feds? What's best

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handled by local government? How can we work

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together? How can we provide support?

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Community policing, a new initiative. Let the

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feds provide the money to get the program off

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the ground. Let's show that it can work. Let's

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see how we work together to address it. Is this

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a drug gang that cuts across district lines?

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Then let the feds do it. If this is a local

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crime, let the local police do it. But work

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together to achieve a partnership and look at

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the crime problem as a whole. Not just in terms

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of enforcement, but what can be done to prevent

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it in the first place.

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Again, the academic community can be

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a vital force. In our strategic local planning,

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we have suggested to every U.S. attorney

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involved that they participate with an academic

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institution in providing for the evaluation and

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the analysis of what the problem is and what's

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working and what's not working.

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The next building block is a job

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with a living wage. You can do so much if you

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link it all together. If you start looking at

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schools and if we, instead of having just

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general academic requirements, said that

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everyone had to graduate from high school with a

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skill that can enable them to earn a living

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wage. Somebody says, but I'm going to Harvard.

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How many of you know somebody who is going to

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Harvard and sat out for two years or dropped out

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for two years because they didn't know what life

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was for and they were trying to find themselves?

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Let's make sure that everyone has a skill that

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can enable them to earn a living wage.

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Someone spoke earlier in the day

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about the knowledge of a work ethic and an

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appreciation for a work ethic. That can be

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taught. That can be taught, and it is being

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taught in good programs across this country.

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Let's find out how the best work and transplant

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them, and let us make sure we have retraining

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available, as we move along.

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But the final point is how do you

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create a community glue? There are some

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communities that work and some that don't.

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Boston is a classic example of a community that

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has begun to put the pieces together, to bring

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the disciplines together, to bring the academic

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community and the medical community and law

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enforcement community together.

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I can go to Dorchester or Roxbury

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and just feel an energy and a strength and an

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excitement and a sense of hope amongst the young

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people because of what government, the church,

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the private sector, have done to bring

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communities together.

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I've been in office a little over

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five years now. I am absolutely convinced, as I

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have traveled across this nation, that we can

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truly make a difference if we start with

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community, if we consider the nuts and bolts, if

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we bring all the people together, and if we

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listen to the people.

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My mother taught me that I should

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get into public service because it was the right

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thing to do to try to make the world a better

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place. When I was 13, I saw Dachau and I talked

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to German friends with whom I lived when I

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visited in Germany, I asked them how it

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happened. And they said it just happened. We

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cannot stand by and let it just happen. There

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is so much to do in this nation and it is

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possible. Never have I so strongly believed

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that we can reverse the problems we see as I do

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after these five years. Much of it is because

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of work done in this institution to show us

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what's working and what's not working. But most

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of it is due to the extraordinary capacity of so

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many people in America, in the church, in

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government, in the private sector, to say, I'm

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not going to stand by, I am going to make a

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difference. Thank you.

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Dean Nye: That was a very moving

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speech, as well as a thoughtful one. Attorney

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General Reno has agreed to take a few questions.

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And it would be nice if we kept them on the

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topic of renegotiating the social contract.

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UNIDENTIFIED: You mentioned

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government, religion, private sector. What

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about the media?

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ATTORNEY GENERAL JANET RENO: Well,

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my mother and father were both newspaper

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reporters, my brother's a columnist, my

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grandfather was the chief photographer for the

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Herald and my aunt was the music critic, and I

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leave them alone.

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I will say this, though. If you

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pick up the average American paper today, if you

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did an analysis -- and it would be very

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interesting to do an analysis, I would dare say

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that most of them have run a major thoughtful

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series on children's issues within the last two

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years. Even small community newspapers. I

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think most of them, in terms of their editorial

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policies, are doing some very thoughtful things.

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In their coverage of youth violence, I think

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they're pointing out so many of the problems.

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In many respects, they're doing a good job.

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With respect to television violence,

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I still think we have a long way to go, but I

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think the American people have got to speak out

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to advertisers and others in that regard, and

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make sure that their voice is heard there, as

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well.

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Let me go back to the point that I

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made. We can let television master us. We can

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let information technology master us. Or we can

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master it. And I think it's one of the

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important steps that we've got to take to make

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sure that we retain the spirit, the human

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spirit, the way people reach out and touch each

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other, both by tone of voice and manner, that

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you never see on television and that you never

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see on the Internet.

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UNIDENTIFIED: Attorney General

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Reno, of all the points that you talked about,

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could you perhaps select one or two that you

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would assign the highest priority or where we

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should focus our efforts to try and regenerate

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our communities?

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ATTORNEY GENERAL JANET RENO: Zero

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to three and education. But I will point out to

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you that if you go that route, you run into the

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problem that people run into, because your

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building will fall because it didn't have health

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care right there as part of it. And even if you

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build this great wall, soundly put together,

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unless you focus on job skills, you're going to

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have people sitting around with nothing to do,

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or -- it is -- I think -- if I have one key

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point to make, it's start early and provide a

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continuum, because it's -- you also have another

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frustrating problem. You may have a perfectly

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great program for six to nine-year-olds who are

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from families at risk. Then there's nothing for

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the 10 to 13-year-old; and three years later,

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people are saying, see, the program didn't work

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there's been a high incidence of recidivism.

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Well, yes, because the kid still went home to

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the empty house, still went home unsupervised

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after school, and so I guess my major point is

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to build this life, to give this kid the

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opportunity, he's got to have all the building

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blocks. Some can overcome pieces missing here

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and there, but it's that solid foundation and

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that solid wall that makes the difference.

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you know, considering one of the frustrations of

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it is that we have legislators and governors who

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basically want to give back the money to

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taxpayers rather than to build kind of the

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infrastructure you're talking about and reduce

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the size of classrooms and that type of thing.

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What do you think can be done by Americans who

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want to see a better life in the risk area where

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we have so much of the -- you know, give the tax

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dollars back rather than invest in the future?

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ATTORNEY GENERAL JANET RENO: When I

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first started out talking about zero to three at

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home in about 1989, people kind of looked at me

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like I was crazy, and by the time I left, they

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knew generally what I was talking about and we

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were beginning to make some progress. When I

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came to Washington, Senator Simpson was

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wonderful to me. He didn't call me a social

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worker, but some of his colleagues call me a

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social worker, and they wondered why an Attorney

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General was talking like this. Now, nobody

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laughs at me anymore, or if they do, they laugh

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behind my back. And as I travel around the

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country, more and more states are adopting

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healthy children by six, or healthy start by

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six, or programs for zero to three. They

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understand the mathematics involved if they

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don't have the compassion necessary to generate

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the programs. And this, again, is a classic

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example of the research that's been done, of the

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medical community working with the social

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workers and lawyers to try to develop the best

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possible approach. And it is an example of what

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happens when you have solid data to support a

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return on the dollar.

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I can't tell you how helpful it was

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to me with the legislature to talk about for

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three dollars invested, you can get so much of a

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return in terms of prenatal care. There just --

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you've just got to keep after it. And I think

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you can make a difference. But you've got to

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talk in terms of investment to some of these

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business people who think otherwise that they're

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going to return the dollars. I think it can be

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done.

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It's slow and let me give you an

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example. In 1978, we applied for a domestic

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violence grant. We got it, based on statistics

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that we had obtained from the medical examiners

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office that showed that 40 percent of the

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homicides in Dade County in the previous 20

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years had been related to domestic violence. It

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was judged one of the best programs in the

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nation, but the state wouldn't take it over

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after the grant ended, and the county finally

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took it over.

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I couldn't get anybody interested.

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The court sneered at the cases and said it's a

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domestic. The police said, it's a domestic, she

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doesn't want to prosecute, we're not going to be

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involved. Finally, by the time I left, 15 years

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later, we had a domestic violence court, the

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police were sensitive to it, and now almost

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everywhere I go, people are sensitive to it and

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are trying to respond to it. You simply can't

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give up.

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DEAN NYE: Well, let me thank the

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Attorney General for a wonderful cap to our

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extraordinary symposium. As I said, we've

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touched a number of subjects. We have far from

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solved the problems which we've raised, but I

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think if people are willing to spend their

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weekends thinking about things as important and

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difficult as this, it's probably a healthy sign

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that perhaps there is the incipient parts of

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community with which work we can construct and

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reconstruct, and we're deeply grateful to

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Attorney General Janet Reno for bringing that to

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our attention, for capping our weekend so

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perfectly with her speech, and please join me in

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thanking her. And also I should say that in a

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year from now, we will have another symposium,

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where we'll report on the work done in the next

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stage of the Visions of Governance project, and

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I hope we'll have some more progress to report.

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